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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: "How do I go to shows?" thread Reply with quote

I'd probably go to more shows if I had a consistent way of getting into town, but I don't think I do.

car - don't have one/no licence
bus - all shows are at like stupid late hours when the bus doesn't run
friends - I don't have any of these I just have synthesizers
walking - all shows for the next 4 or 5 months are at like stupid cold temperatures outdoors

Suggestions please.
Personally I think all shows should be in the woods across the highway from my house.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved into town. Problem solved.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll probably be moving to a town in the relatively near future (aka before September).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a tough situation. I love going to shows and get out to a few but most often it means either little or no drinking or a $25 cab ride home. Both options suck.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teach one of your synthesizers to drive. BAM.

Or, what Kelly said.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Teach one of your synthesizers to drive. BAM.


Synthesizers have been limited to traveling through outer space only since at least the late 1980s.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick up some broad at the show so you can stay at her place til the busses run.

(important note: stay no later! They get all "whats for breakfast?" and "where's my wallet?")
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^I'm not sure if that would work, but I could probably swing sneaking in & hiding in the cupboards under the sink. I hear girls like it when guys hide under their sink.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You get money, get your ass out of your abode and go
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where do you live, owen? Aren't you going to school in miramichi? or are you in the valley?

a midnight bus service out to the valley would be cool, but I suspect there is not enough demand -- I used that occasionally when I lived in Hamilton. it left downtown TO at midnight. Nowadays it would be the Go Train I suppose. Wouldn't it be awesome if we had a regular commuter train? Maybe in 50 years... ;)

problem is, even if we had that, we'd have to leave before the band came on! Maybe a 2 am bus? (yeah, that's gonna happen)

you've all heard that before: earlier shows = more attendance from old people like me who have a little bit of $ money and are glad to spend it on live music

the main reason I don't go to more shows is the late start. 2nd reason is similar to what Hawk said (can't justify cab $ more than once in a while, won't drive after drinking more than 2 beers, and I like to drink more than 2 beers at a show: these don't add up)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm changing over to another course at a different school, but it doesn't start until September, so I'll probably be in Quispamsis for at least a couple of months.

Personally I'd like earlier shows too, because normally I go to bed before 11.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm changing over to another course at a different school, but it doesn't start until September, so I'll probably be in Quispamsis for at least a couple of months.

Personally I'd like earlier shows too, because normally I go to bed before 11.


well, if by some bizarre coincidence we go to the same show I'd give you a lift, no worries
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet. I think that's a possibility. I like most of the stuff you've mentioned liking.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shows gots-ta be startin' earlier up in the John.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shows gots-ta be startin' earlier up in the John.

We have the same problem in Fredericton. The Capital tends to book most of the touring indie-rock bands and they never start before 11pm, often not until 11:30pm. And that's just the START time. The headliner doesn't usually get going until 12:30 or 1am. That's pretty darn late, especially if it's a weekday show.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm only talking from the POV of me and a few other friends of mine, who complain about this a lot. I have no idea whether or not it would help the scene all that much...

I'd like to think so, but there's only one way to find out: start holding occasional shows that they are DONE by midnight. I believe that more drinks would be sold, because the people who come would be less likely to be the type who get drunk at home first then nurse one drink all night at the bar (or worse, smuggle in liquor). We'd arrive for the 8 pm start and drink steadily all night, and maybe even eat there.

Maybe we need a specifically themed "Music Pub" like the Carleton http://www.thecarleton.ca/ or Company House http://www.thecompanyhouse.ca/html/calendar.html in Halifax: nice place, good food, good wine, microbrew on tap, music focused. Anybody been? They are busy and sell lots of drinks, which makes cash. Company House does not book punk, hard rock or indie (??) though.

Bourbon is kind of like the Carleton on the nights they have shows, but is more a restaurant. Vintage Bistro is like that - they have tons of good live music, tho nothing loud, but it is in Hampton, so only appeals to those who live there or can drive or afford long cab rides. I really like Pepper's for beer, food and music, but the shows start late (and I understand the reason why - it has been explained well here & I totally get it).

I could be full of shit. But a music pub like that is the kind of place I want uptown.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been said a million times. It baffles me that most venues still don't do early starts on weeknights.

I don't know how many times I've played a weekday show where people decided not to come because we were headlining.
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geddyshredpwn wrote:
This has been said a million times. It baffles me that most venues still don't do early starts on weeknights.

I don't know how many times I've played a weekday show where people decided not to come because we were headlining.


I'm actually asking because I want the answer, not because I think I know it. Do those people who miss the show you're playing drink/buy much?
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This has been said a million times. It baffles me that most venues still don't do early starts on weeknights.

I don't know how many times I've played a weekday show where people decided not to come because we were headlining.


I'm actually asking because I want the answer, not because I think I know it. Do those people who miss the show you're playing drink/buy much?


Within reason, perhaps? Hard to give a yes or no to that question.

Most of my friends aren't bar stars, if that's what you're asking.
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geddyshredpwn wrote:
This has been said a million times. It baffles me that most venues still don't do early starts on weeknights.

I don't know how many times I've played a weekday show where people decided not to come because we were headlining.


I'm actually asking because I want the answer, not because I think I know it. Do those people who miss the show you're playing drink/buy much?


Within reason, perhaps? Hard to give a yes or no to that question.

Most of my friends aren't bar stars, if that's what you're asking.


Shows are tough. From a bar's perspective, they want to make as much money as possible. Is that by getting more heads in and selling a couple drinks to each one, or selling more drinks to less people who do not have to work the next day(or work late, or don't care)? Or, do those same people not drink much because they show up drunk as brufrog said. I'm glad I don't do that any longer. Personally, if the bill is intriguing enough, I'll find a way to get there.
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geddyshredpwn wrote:
This has been said a million times. It baffles me that most venues still don't do early starts on weeknights.

I don't know how many times I've played a weekday show where people decided not to come because we were headlining.


I'm actually asking because I want the answer, not because I think I know it. Do those people who miss the show you're playing drink/buy much?


Within reason, perhaps? Hard to give a yes or no to that question.

Most of my friends aren't bar stars, if that's what you're asking.


there are a lot of shows i wish i could go to on weeknights. i probably end up going to 1 out of 3 weeknight shows that interest me because i can't function well at work if i'm out until 2am. when i go to a weeknight show i usually have 2 beer.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good discussion...

Srsly, have any of you been to the Carleton? I really think they have the perfect model for a money making music pub...

Would it work in SJ? If not, then I should probably move...
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brufrog wrote:
Good discussion...

Srsly, have any of you been to the Carleton? I really think they have the perfect model for a money making music pub...

Would it work in SJ? If not, then I should probably move...


Also the CoHo (Company House) in the North End has earlier shows. I think the theme here is singer/songwriter venues, they like the earlier shows it seems.
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brufrog wrote:
Good discussion...

Srsly, have any of you been to the Carleton? I really think they have the perfect model for a money making music pub...

Would it work in SJ? If not, then I should probably move...


Also the CoHo (Company House) in the North End has earlier shows. I think the theme here is singer/songwriter venues, they like the earlier shows it seems.


I haven't been there yet but I hear great things from the Halifax music lovers I know whose tastes overlap with mine..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to have a thing in the summer where people do shows at sundown in a field somewhere. Could this work?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee's Palace has got it right.

Friday February 4: WINNIPEG/OTTAWA MapleMusic Indie Folk Rock
JIM BRYSON & THE WEAKERTHANS BAND @ 11:30p w/ Sunparlour Players @ 10:15p

It's not a 23:00 wrap up, but it's better than the 1am start time for a headliner, as in Saint John.

PS, anyone hear the Sunparlour Players yet? Delicious.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad the existing music venues in Saint John don't do enough to support everyones musical tastes while still maintaining an open door….it would be lovely to have a full house on a monday night for a rockabiily show while everyone drank highend scotch and toasted the city's wonderful development. That is just not the case. Saint John venues cannot afford to put on a show for 10 people. Unfortunately, they have to accommodate the masses in order to stay open. Not to say that some of the "mass" bands are not unreal…..they are, but the small population of music lovers makes it prohibitive to the business to support some of the acts that might be more worthy of venue time.
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Exactly. As Mork would say:

"Reality, what a concept"
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