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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Share Environmentally Friendly Tips Here Reply with quote

(I could have sworn there was a thread on this, but I couldn't find it anywhere)

Please share any 'green' tips you have in this thread. If anyone has suggestions, ideas, questions, anything at all 'green' related, please post here.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This week I began hanging my clothes up to dry on a retractable clothesline I bought for $14. Now to do more sit-ups so I can ditch the washer too!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't burn used medical supplies in the backyard.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't a tip, but a question: where can I take glass bottles to be recycled in Saint John/Rothesay? Like, jars and things, things without a deposit on them.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't burn used medical supplies in the backyard.

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Hospital stack I assume? Yeah, it's a sore point working there.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This isn't a tip, but a question: where can I take glass bottles to be recycled in Saint John/Rothesay? Like, jars and things, things without a deposit on them.

I don't think they are recycled anywhere around here anymore. I save mine to use for things and when they become too numerous I toss 'em :(
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's my understanding on glass as well. It's infuriating and seems so backwards. Other provinces have programs for glass. Yeesh.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Cloth diapers. Not nearly as much work, nor as messy as I'd imagined. Disposable paper liners catch the poo, they get flushed. The rest goes in the wash, then hung to dry on a clothes rack in the sunporch.
We have a front-load washer that uses very little water... not sure if using a top-load is as environmentally friendly.

2) heating with wood/ pellets. Cheap, environmentally friendly (assuming you're using a modern EPA aprroved stove). Another upside of wood heat is that you get lots of excercise stacking wood. I get 5 cords in the spring, and stack it outside to dry. Then in the fall, I wove it to the basement for easy access. Lots of work, but I always enjoy being outside working in the spring & fall.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good call Jake. I'm seriously considering installing a wood stove in my basement this year. NB Power can stuff it.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notfarnow wrote:

2) heating with wood/ pellets. Cheap, environmentally friendly (assuming you're using a modern EPA aprroved stove). Another upside of wood heat is that you get lots of excercise stacking wood. I get 5 cords in the spring, and stack it outside to dry. Then in the fall, I wove it to the basement for easy access. Lots of work, but I always enjoy being outside working in the spring & fall.


We have a wood stove and when we talk to people who heat with electricity, we can't believe how much they spend. We own 30 acres of land so we cut our own wood; factor in gas for the truck/tractor, gas for the chainsaw, it might cost us $200 to heat our house for the whole winter.

And piling wood is a great workout. I had one summer where I piled about 8 cord of wood by myself in one weekend.


As for my environmentally friendly suggestions, try to buy locally. The more you buy from within NB, or even just Canada, the less time that product spends on a boat/plane/truck getting here.

Compost. It's simple, doesn't take up much space, and can really cut down on the amount of garbage that ends up at the dump.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another bonus to a wood stove, you can still make breakfast and coffee when the power goes out.

My tips are:

Buy things with minimal packaging. Single serving packaging has got to go. If it has packaging, check to make sure that at least a percentage has been recycled.


Plant....anything. I don't care if it's a garden to feed yourself, a tree, or flowers and herbs. Every little green bit helps everyone breath a little easier.

Donate your unwanted junk to community living. They will come to your house and pick it up. They take pretty much anything.

Use a reusable bag or make your own for store purchases.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stop eating meat
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't there a glass container in the blue bins by McAllister Mall East? And I'm pretty sure that Superstore in Millidgeville has that too.

I tried the Greenworks by Clorox cleaner this weekend and wow! It's better then the chemical stuff!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christian LeBlanc wrote:
This isn't a tip, but a question: where can I take glass bottles to be recycled in Saint John/Rothesay? Like, jars and things, things without a deposit on them.


I have found that putting them up on FreeCycle or Kijiji works wonders. You can usually score a bottle of mustard pickles or jam for your troubles! I actually have built a few relationships where I simply drop off my glass to a few people every few weeks. One person actually grows her own veggies and always offers a bottle of this or that when I stop by. Good deal!

zmd wrote:
stop eating meat


This. Huge! The livestock industry really needs to change ASAP.

I would offer that simple changes/fixes to your home can save you cash and energy. An energy retrofit would be the best case scenario but simply making your home a little more efficient in the winter months can be huge.

Washing clothes in cold water! It amazes me that people actually use anything but these days.

A 'two-sink' system for washing dishes is helpful for conserving water. The first being the washing sink and he second being used to rinse the dishes before drying eliminates the need to run the tap to rinse.

Unplugging used eletronics and appliances can add up. Unplug the coffee maker/microwave/radio/TV/etc when not in use.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zmd wrote:
stop eating meat


This x100 (I wasn't going to go there)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not saying it to be inflammatory, it is what the thread is about :)
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I clean my house with baking soda, lemon juice, vinegar, rubbing alcohol and Greenworks dish soap. Not all at once obviously, but that's all I need.
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kellymaraschino wrote:
I clean my house with baking soda, vinegar


I hope to God you don't live in one of these:

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kellymaraschino wrote:
I clean my house with baking soda, lemon juice, vinegar, rubbing alcohol and Greenworks dish soap. Not all at once obviously, but that's all I need.

How would you go about cleaning, say, a shower/tub with just those? I seriously want to know because I've found a lot of "green" cleansers aren't very effective at getting rid of the gunk in there.
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kellymaraschino wrote:
I clean my house with baking soda, lemon juice, vinegar, rubbing alcohol and Greenworks dish soap. Not all at once obviously, but that's all I need.

How would you go about cleaning, say, a shower/tub with just those? I seriously want to know because I've found a lot of "green" cleansers aren't very effective at getting rid of the gunk in there.


Baking soda is a great abrasive along with a good scrub brush. Scrub in some baking soda, spray with vinegar let it sit a few then scrub off with dish soap and rinse. Voila.
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zmd wrote:
i'm not saying it to be inflammatory, it is what the thread is about :)


Oh I realize that, I just assumed someone would get all worked up about eating meat...

More on billy strange's last point.

I probably produce one full bag of garbage every 2-3 months, all recycle/compost for me! Now if only Styrofoam was outlawed.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remembered a good one:

If it's yellow, let it mellow.
If it's brown, flush it down.
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Kill yourself. If you want to be extra green do it somewhere your body will decompose quickly.
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Kill yourself. If you want to be extra green do it somewhere your body will decompose quickly.


Nobody forced you to read any hippy-speak, Mr. Grumpy-Pants!

(ok, ok, sorry, I got carried away)
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Christian LeBlanc wrote:
Just remembered a good one:

If it's yellow, let it mellow.
If it's brown, flush it down.

Nope! Ain't nobody's urine gonna float around unflushed in my abode! Toilets were invented for a reason. God, I do love hygiene!
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Stop eating oranges.
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Shoot the Band wrote:
Kill yourself. If you want to be extra green do it somewhere your body will decompose quickly.


Actually: http://inventorspot.com/articles/8_innovative_burial_alternatives_7843

"Within a few days after death the body is frozen in liquid nitrogen. This makes the body very brittle. The body is then slightly vibrated which turns the body into a powder. A vacuum chamber is then used to evaporate away any water so that the powder is dry. The powder is then placed in a small corn or potato starch coffin and is buried to decompose within a few months. This reduces the environmental impact on water, air and soil compared to a normal burial or cremation."

Boogedewahhhhh???
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songles' #1 environmentally friendly tip:

Lobby your federal government for a god damn carbon tax thanks. Nothing's going to significantly change in a free market until you put restrictions on the market. The solution needs to be deeply systemic. This is why I liked Stephan Dion for a bit, until that hilarious shakey-cam address to the nation.
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You can power minor things with small solar power and the panels are relatively inexpensive.

My dad bought two solar panels when they were on sale. One keeps the battery for our radio at the camp charged and the other keeps the battery in the old tractor ready to go.

It doesn't seem like much but it makes a difference.
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Stop eating bananas.
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Hawk wrote:
Stop eating bananas.


"Stop eating food." Yer in cahoots with Shoot The Band, aren't you! ;)
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If it's brown, don't eat it.
If it's yellow, kill yourself.
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If it's brown, don't eat it.
If it's yellow, kill yourself.


My one problem with this: Chocolate. (Which you can get on free-trade.)
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Hawk wrote:
Stop eating bananas.


"Stop eating food." Yer in cahoots with Shoot The Band, aren't you! ;)


No! Not eating oranges and bananas is just a round-about, or perhaps asshole way of saying eat local. Our bananas are shipped here from Mexico and points even further south and most of our oranges come from California or Florida. There are lots of fruits and other foods that can provide the same nutrition that are grown right here in New Brunswick.

Please note, however, that I eat oranges, bananas, lemons and limes all the time and have no plans to change that because I'm an asshole.

Hope this helps.
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Hawk wrote:
Not eating oranges and bananas is just a round-about, or perhaps asshole way of saying eat local. Our bananas are shipped here from Mexico and points even further south and most of our oranges come from California or Florida. There are lots of fruits and other foods that can provide the same nutrition that are grown right here in New Brunswick.

Please note, however, that I eat oranges, bananas, lemons and limes all the time and have no plans to change that because I'm an asshole.

Hope this helps.


Obviously you're not an asshole for eating fruit, or suggesting local food. But it is funny to picture some right-winger, angrily stuffing his face with a banana just to rile people up!
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*angrily eats banana*

Ahh! My image!!
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Please note, however, that I eat oranges, bananas, lemons and limes all the time and have no plans to change that because I'm an asshole.

Which goes back to my earlier point about a carbon tax. We're all assholes, so the only way to keep us from gorging ourselves on bananas and oranges like a bunch of King Herods is to price them according to their social costs.
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songles' #1 environmentally friendly tip:

Lobby your federal government for a god damn carbon tax thanks. Nothing's going to significantly change in a free market until you put restrictions on the market. The solution needs to be deeply systemic. This is why I liked Stephan Dion for a bit, until that hilarious shakey-cam address to the nation.


This. I'm not sure if carbon tax is the most efficient/best way to go about it because... well... I just don't know enough about it. However, I can say quite assuredly that in order to effect meaningful change it needs to be regulatory in nature and focused on industry. And it's going to cost... a lot.

It's all well and good to clean with lemon juice and use a two sided sink to wash your dishes, but the idea that is going to have any real and lasting impact is, frankly, laughable. Even if we all did it. If we don't have regulations on the company that makes the plastic bottle that your lemon juice comes in, you could be making things worse for all I know. And there are single heavy industrial users in this province that use more water in a few minutes than all the washing of dishes in the rest of the province for a whole year.
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songles wrote:
Hawk wrote:
Please note, however, that I eat oranges, bananas, lemons and limes all the time and have no plans to change that because I'm an asshole.

Which goes back to my earlier point about a carbon tax. We're all assholes, so the only way to keep us from gorging ourselves on bananas and oranges like a bunch of King Herods is to price them according to their social costs.


Precisely.

Ever wonder why the Irving Mainway stores have for decades been pushing cheap bananas on the public? Well, now you know. Because it's like eating gasoline, and that's good for business.
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The environmental movement is anti-bananas.
That's just bananas.

I just wanted to make the pun, okay? OKAY?
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Ever wonder why the Irving Mainway stores have for decades been pushing cheap bananas on the public? Well, now you know. Because it's like eating gasoline, and that's good for business.

Aaaaaathatsrslyneveroccurredtomeuntilrightnowffs.

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Most of my family throws whatever they have in the garbage.
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dan j wrote:
Most of my family throws whatever they have in the garbage.


I've never thought of that. That's a really good tip!
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Greasers and the Socs...Hippies and the Pragmatists...Oh how Giraffecycle-esque this thread has turned.

Anyway-
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If it's yellow, let it mellow.
If it's brown, flush it down.

Addendum: unless you've eaten asparagus, flush that stanky ass urine down!
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I have no tips, not any that haven't already been mentioned.

I did notice this in my last Rothesay newsletter

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Rothesay is considering the implementation of a Curbside Recycling program. This will eliminate trips to the blue depots. Such a system would involve bi-weekly collection at curbside of three separate streams of materials similar to those at the depots. It is hoped such a service will encourage more recycling as well as providing residents more convenience. If such a system is to be implemented, some restrictions on materials that can be put in the regular garbage are likely. If you think curbside recycling would be a great service for you and your neighbours, please let us know at Rothesay@rothesay.ca or call 848-6600.


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I hate that Fredericton does not have pick up for compost!

After spending the weekend with my bro in Halifax and seeing only one tiny garbage filled over an entire weekend with 6 people, I am determined to finally set up a composting system for my household this weekend.

I did a bit of searching...composting systems are expensive! After more searching I have found directions that will enable me to use things I already have and will not cost me a cent! Yay, the interwebs!
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stop buying bottled water, it urks me to see people going with cases of individual bottles of water
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stop buying bottled water, it urks me to see people going with cases of individual bottles of water


I can't wait til the river breaks up here and I'm left to figure out how to even shower in a clean-water fashion. I'm actually planning a camp-shower rig for my tub.

I will be avoiding bottled water as much as I can. My aim is zero bottles. I've started filling milk jugs and pop bottles already.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kate wrote:
stop buying bottled water, it urks me to see people going with cases of individual bottles of water


I buy bottled water for the personal preference of taste and convenience. It's the same reason I buy beer in individual bottles. Do you get upset when people buy cases of beer?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

izabeth wrote:
I hate that Fredericton does not have pick up for compost!

Me too! Even Sussex has a wet/dry garbage system. WTF, Fredericton.
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